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My Friends List will fall into three categories if I write what I think about the force feedings at Gitmo.

1) Humanists: "Ewww . . . they do that?!?!? Shove tubes down people's noses daily for years to force them to stay alive? How can I complain about this?"

2) Academics: "You know, that's an interesting psychwar technique. Especially when the former commandant at Gitmo had it done to himself just to prove that it's really a medical intervention and not torture. When doctors participate in forced feeding, are they within the bounds of the profession?"

3) Asshats: "Terrorists deserve anything that's done to them, what's the big deal? Some of the 'strikers' even complain if their force feedings are delayed."

I don't want to gross out my friends who are human beings. I don't really want to get into an academic discussion of the details of forced gastric feeding and its implications for liberty. I'm tired of providing a forum for asshats to display their asshattery.

I'm just going to point out one thing.

Force feeding is a technique borrowed from the American prison system.

Think about it!

Date: 2007-08-06 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
SNAP!

(the sound of the trap closing on you)

You -- arguing that I am wrong to despise Muslims, have just argued that I would not dare to say it to their faces. Now, why do you assume that there might be something dangerous in saying it to their faces, or that I might not survive doing so?

Well, obviously, the reason would be that they were a bunch of insanely violent terrorist types, since if they were reasonable people, they would instead counter my words with words of their own, rather than with violence (*).

As I've been saying all along.

Thank you for playing. :D

FYI, I've faced down pro-IRA people, and I have far more respect for the Irish than I do for the Muslims. In reality, I've found that if you are brave, people attack you a lot less than you might imagine.

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(*) It's possible that what you meant was that we should respect the Muslims especially because they are violent and dangerous. I'm always amazed at this sort of cowardice.
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Date: 2007-08-06 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
You're not getting it. The conversation we just had was essentially:

ME: Bill is unreasonably violent, hence we should not respect him.

YOU: Oh yeah! I dare you to say that to Bill's face! He'll punch ya in the snoot!

In that conversation, you just essentially argued my point.

Date: 2007-08-06 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com
Unless you actually are arguing "We should respect the unreasonably violent because they are unreasonably violent," in which case I have nothing to reply save that a coward dies a thousand times, a brave man only once.
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Date: 2007-08-07 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drewkitty.livejournal.com
Enjoying trolldom much?

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