network warfare has come to LJ
May. 29th, 2007 08:38 amA group styling themselves "Warriors for Innocence" has launched a major memetic warfare attack on LiveJournal. This has included attacks on their advertiser base, flogging the LJ Abuse team and using their replies to incriminate LJ, and now threats of direct legal action. In partial response, LJ has chosen to madly delete a large number of LJs which list certain criminal interests. See also http://liz-marcs.livejournal.com/266024.html
Do not visit the "Warriors for Innocence" site; view only through caches. They are using IP tracking software at a sophisticated level and claim to have high-level links with multiple law enforcement agencies. They are not shy about "outing" people to employers and law enforcement agencies based on secret criteria.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:mbDxkMwOuxUJ:www.warriorsforinnocence.org/+http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
"Any information, including IP's, comments, or emails may be published at any time. Any comments by pedophiles or those supporting them will be deleted on site. Any correspondence, including but not limited to comments, links, emails, phone calls, snail mail, etc may be used by Warriors For Innocence without your permission."
Allow me to let them speak for themselves. I do not consider reposting an "Open Letter" from a network warfare aware group to be a violation of copyright.
LiveJournal and Six Apart: It’s time to do the right thing
Open Letter to Six Apart, the owners of LiveJournal:
Dear Six Apart,
I have found many ads on very inappropriate web pages that are hosted by LiveJournal.com. These ads are in close proximity to such subjects as Child Rape, Child Molestation, Child Abuse, Child Pornography, and other disturbing topics. I am sure that as a responsible and well respected company, you know nothing about this, just as the advertisers on LiveJournal do not.
I have been in contact with the LiveJournal Abuse Team about this very issue for quite some time now, and my concerns have fallen on deaf ears. I have also contacted Six Apart, but never received a response.
If you'd like, you can read some of the replies from LiveJournal on our site, Warriors For Innocence.
I have contacted these advertisers and informed them of where their ads are placed. I have had nothing but shock and thanks for my efforts. These ads are placed through Google Adwords and Google Adsense. The companies buying these ads do not know that they are paying for representation on web pages that list interests as "child abuse, child f***ing, child molestation, child porn, child sexual abuse, f***ing kids, f***ing little kids, f***ing young girls, kiddie porn, child sexual abuse, incest" and more.
I have taken many screen shots of these disgusting pages with the ads on them and will be glad to email them to you if someone will contact me with an email address to which to send them.
Unfortunately, these ads not only appear on individual sites, they also appear on general category pages, some of them called “f***ing children”. These general category pages will have the ad at the top of the page and show many sites listed that are “interested” in the same category.
Since there are literally thousands of sick pedophile and child sex sites like this on LiveJournal, merely requesting to have the ad removed from a single page or site will not stop the problem. The advertising companies have had to ask to withdraw their ads from all of LiveJournal.com in order to protect themselves and the reputations of their companies. I have emails from several advertising companies who have done just that.
Your advertisers are leaving LiveJournal. LiveJournal is doing nothing to stop this. You need to assess this situation and consider “cleaning up” LiveJournal and removing the sites that not only list these “interests” but also describe in graphic detail the sexual abuse and rape of children as young as 3 years old.
It’s time to value child safety above free speech. It’s time to do the right thing. If morals will not compel you to do this, then maybe loss of advertising dollars will.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Sues
WFI team member
http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/
warriorsforinnocence@gmail.com
You can see all of our articles on LiveJournal here.
You can email Six Apart Advertising here: advertise@sixapart.com You can also email Jane Anderson at Jane@sixapart.com but she's the one who never responded to my emails.
Labels: Child Molesters, child porn, Child Rape, child rapists, Child Safety, Child Sex, LiveJournal, Pedophile
(End letter)
Note their complete lack of respect for free speech. Also note their narrow view of the complex and evil subject of child molestation. They believe, strongly, that ruthless suppression is the answer. This means less detection of predators, less help for victims, and no help for abusers . . . who presumably will not spend the rest of their lives in prison. My view of this is complex due to my criminological training; I will not debate it here.
The key point is that "Warriors" is unwilling to discuss the matter and feels that they have the absolutely right answer. Because they are explicitly into censorship and into network warfare, this makes them a very dangerous combination.
This is a classic "moral panic" from the sociological literature.
I may be leaving LJ completely. We'll see if Six Apart has any backbone.
Do not visit the "Warriors for Innocence" site; view only through caches. They are using IP tracking software at a sophisticated level and claim to have high-level links with multiple law enforcement agencies. They are not shy about "outing" people to employers and law enforcement agencies based on secret criteria.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:mbDxkMwOuxUJ:www.warriorsforinnocence.org/+http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
"Any information, including IP's, comments, or emails may be published at any time. Any comments by pedophiles or those supporting them will be deleted on site. Any correspondence, including but not limited to comments, links, emails, phone calls, snail mail, etc may be used by Warriors For Innocence without your permission."
Allow me to let them speak for themselves. I do not consider reposting an "Open Letter" from a network warfare aware group to be a violation of copyright.
LiveJournal and Six Apart: It’s time to do the right thing
Open Letter to Six Apart, the owners of LiveJournal:
Dear Six Apart,
I have found many ads on very inappropriate web pages that are hosted by LiveJournal.com. These ads are in close proximity to such subjects as Child Rape, Child Molestation, Child Abuse, Child Pornography, and other disturbing topics. I am sure that as a responsible and well respected company, you know nothing about this, just as the advertisers on LiveJournal do not.
I have been in contact with the LiveJournal Abuse Team about this very issue for quite some time now, and my concerns have fallen on deaf ears. I have also contacted Six Apart, but never received a response.
If you'd like, you can read some of the replies from LiveJournal on our site, Warriors For Innocence.
I have contacted these advertisers and informed them of where their ads are placed. I have had nothing but shock and thanks for my efforts. These ads are placed through Google Adwords and Google Adsense. The companies buying these ads do not know that they are paying for representation on web pages that list interests as "child abuse, child f***ing, child molestation, child porn, child sexual abuse, f***ing kids, f***ing little kids, f***ing young girls, kiddie porn, child sexual abuse, incest" and more.
I have taken many screen shots of these disgusting pages with the ads on them and will be glad to email them to you if someone will contact me with an email address to which to send them.
Unfortunately, these ads not only appear on individual sites, they also appear on general category pages, some of them called “f***ing children”. These general category pages will have the ad at the top of the page and show many sites listed that are “interested” in the same category.
Since there are literally thousands of sick pedophile and child sex sites like this on LiveJournal, merely requesting to have the ad removed from a single page or site will not stop the problem. The advertising companies have had to ask to withdraw their ads from all of LiveJournal.com in order to protect themselves and the reputations of their companies. I have emails from several advertising companies who have done just that.
Your advertisers are leaving LiveJournal. LiveJournal is doing nothing to stop this. You need to assess this situation and consider “cleaning up” LiveJournal and removing the sites that not only list these “interests” but also describe in graphic detail the sexual abuse and rape of children as young as 3 years old.
It’s time to value child safety above free speech. It’s time to do the right thing. If morals will not compel you to do this, then maybe loss of advertising dollars will.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Sues
WFI team member
http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/
warriorsforinnocence@gmail.com
You can see all of our articles on LiveJournal here.
You can email Six Apart Advertising here: advertise@sixapart.com You can also email Jane Anderson at Jane@sixapart.com but she's the one who never responded to my emails.
Labels: Child Molesters, child porn, Child Rape, child rapists, Child Safety, Child Sex, LiveJournal, Pedophile
(End letter)
Note their complete lack of respect for free speech. Also note their narrow view of the complex and evil subject of child molestation. They believe, strongly, that ruthless suppression is the answer. This means less detection of predators, less help for victims, and no help for abusers . . . who presumably will not spend the rest of their lives in prison. My view of this is complex due to my criminological training; I will not debate it here.
The key point is that "Warriors" is unwilling to discuss the matter and feels that they have the absolutely right answer. Because they are explicitly into censorship and into network warfare, this makes them a very dangerous combination.
This is a classic "moral panic" from the sociological literature.
I may be leaving LJ completely. We'll see if Six Apart has any backbone.
no subject
Date: 2007-05-31 03:44 pm (UTC)