drewkitty: (mooninite)
drewkitty ([personal profile] drewkitty) wrote2010-06-08 04:02 pm

What the "big deal" is about the rights of dirtbags.

I now read that CIA scientists conspired to use experimental techniques on prisoners in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code and the Federal rules for the use of an Institutional Review Board.

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100607/full/news.2010.284.html

"In one example of what it calls research experimentation, the PHR report quotes CIA guidelines for its health professionals — who included physicians, psychologists and physicians' assistants — as requiring them to record, for each instance of waterboarding: "how long each application (and the entire procedure) lasted, how much water was used in the process (realizing that much splashes off), how exactly the water was applied, if a seal was achieved, if the naso- or oropharynx was filled, what sort of volume was expelled, how long was the break between applications, and how the subject looked between each treatment."

Consider this post a first hit breach of Godwin's Law. This is the behavior for which we hanged Nazis.

The rights of dirtbags and terrorist scum are the rights of all of us.

We don't experiment on unwilling subjects. Criminals are tried, convicted and punished. But even a prisoner on death row with a needle in his arm has the right to be treated like a human being and not a piece of meat.

[identity profile] ravan.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Bingo. The people who don't get this, and the fact that terrorists are just violent criminals, not some sort of super soldier that is so awful that they are exempt from the Geneva convention, ought to be themselves tried for crimes against humanity.

[identity profile] wordweaverlynn.livejournal.com 2010-06-09 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
This has sickened me. As usual, you do an admirable job of laying out the issues.