poor skills drama

[drewkitty]

1). I did not delete my post. I assume that the moderators did although I have had no communication from them. Presumably this was due to some of the comments.

2). I will be reposting it in my LJ tomorrow. This is for tempers to cool.

3). A positive attitude is a poor_skills trait. Really. That is all that was meant by my post.

4). My post was not intended for or targeted to the mentally ill. Threats of self harm do not move me. I feel no special reason not to give good advice to the many who can use it just because a few broken souls might misunderstand it.

5). California Penal Code makes "terroristic threats" a crime. Don't do that in my LJ. (I posted the troll's prior words below in a comment, so that one is a freebie on me.)

6). I am not a troll, I have had this LJ for some years now and actively post.

Feel free to ask questions, post comments, etc. here.

Comments

[2notunderstand.livejournal.com]

You just can't or won't understand, will you? Much like I told splatter, one day someone may not threaten you, but will actually do something, so I'm trying to help all of you to understand.

And then you speak of "terroristic threats?" It amazes me how evil you and people like you are. Trying to turn my trampled emotions into threats and saying threats of self harm do not move you? You are unbelievable and maybe it will take something actually happening to you or a loved one to get some form of emotion to come out of you.

I never threatened you, only myself and the fact that you continue to bash me for it when you were part of the cause is irresponsible and devastating.

[drewkitty.livejournal.com]

California Penal Code 422

... a threat of immediate harm made to another person when the defendant intends to, and does, cause fear in the person threatened. The punishment or penalty for criminal threats in California is up to three years in state prison.

I have LJ-comments saved via E-mail and will be deciding whether to contact the police in the morning.

[2notunderstand.livejournal.com]

As I stated before, I threatened myself, so I have no idea where these "threats" are coming from.

To think that you've helped make my decision to hurt myself and you make accusations that aren't even based in reality? What's the point? I can tell you're a very mean person, but that's just lower than low.

I won't even be around much longer and you force me to have to leave this existence by being blamed of something I didn't even do, thanks.

[kensan-oni.livejournal.com]

*hug* I don't know what's going on, but that is one irrational person there.

Be as cool as I know you can be.

[2notunderstand.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I don't know drewkitty at all and they're being incredibly irrational and I'm trying not to let their words bother me, but I just can't believe anyone would be like this.

[rye-bunny.livejournal.com]

lol at "trampled emotions". If your emotions get trampled by words from a stranger over the internet, I think it's time to not have internet.

I'm also laughing at you calling Drew evil, I met him. He's actually really nice. I also know some truly vile people, I would consider you lucky if Drew is what you consider "evil". You are a ridiculous human being.

[rye-bunny.livejournal.com]

Do you not know how lj works? Kensan is replying to Drew, not you. Unless you are thanking them for calling you irrational.

[2notunderstand.livejournal.com]

Yes, of course I get that. Again, I'm trying to prove a point. The only person being irrational is drewkitty, so I'm being sarcastic. You have no idea what hurtful and mean things they said in other areas that were deleted.

I wish I had never came to this place to get help in the first place because I'm MUCH worse off than I had been before.

Stupid me for trying to reach out.

[kensan-oni.livejournal.com]

Let me offer a few words of advice.

Go, take a nap, and try again in the morning. No retorce mi palabra, por favor.

[lironess.livejournal.com]

Crap!!!! I missed teh drama!!!! Sigh.

I was on Boners.com having a giggly time. Maybe we should all go there and crack up for a while.

[rye-bunny.livejournal.com]

Well, you fail at "proving a point" because there is nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm.

If your feelings can be hurt by a stranger in a lj community, than there is something so wrong with you it can only be cured by never taking part in internet discussion communities ever again. Christ, your acting like he raped your kitten or something. No one believes you're as butthurt as you're making yourself out to be, especially on Drew's personal lj since we KNOW him and that he's a pretty rad guy.

But it's pretty funny to see you wank about like a 5 year old who want's attention, so *thumbs up*, keep at it champ. Maybe if you moan about your deep emotional lj-caused trauma long enough we will all see the light and believe our friend is a kitten-raping monster.

[wordweaverlynn.livejournal.com]

It sounds like you're in a great deal of pain. I'm very sorry for that. I've struggled much of my life with severe depression, and I know what anguish it can cause.

I didn't see the original post, although I am a member of poor_skills. It sounds as though drewkitty said something about the usefulness of maintaining a positive attitude. And it *is* useful. There's a difference between saying that and asserting that people who are depressed just need to buck up and all their troubles will be gone. I know how hurtful and infuriating that can be -- when I was 14 I had a doctor tell me that if I were a better Christian, I wouldn't be depressed.

I hope you do get the kinds of help you need here -- you might check out the depression support community. Good luck.

[gridlore.livejournal.com]

Drew is one of the more rational people I've ever met, and this is coming from someone who is often compared to Vulcans in terms of logical thinking.

Your journal was created yesterday. Interesting how you manage to create this much dram in under 24 hours. How's life under that bridge?

[drewkitty.livejournal.com]

Are these your words? (Taken from your LJ comment on the deleted post.)

"See what I mean? Just reading these comments makes me want to do so many
things to myself it isn't even funny, yet people keep making them. It's
like everyone is getting off on this."

"History repeats itself over and over again. It's like Columbine all over.
Everyone blames the shooters, but no one blames the bullies. And everyone
always uses the excuse of, "no one has a gun to your head forcing your
hand," crap. Be honest and admit that I'm weak, but that's it. People's
words CAN and DO cause them to do things they wouldn't normally do."

"This world is such a sick and twisted place. It's like the example of one
of you people calling an obese person fat, they blow their head off, and
you just sit there and say, "I didn't force them to do it." Afterwards,
you probably laugh about, make blog entries, and tell all your friends
about the "weirdo" that killed themselves. That's the closest example of
evil I can think of, yet you all contribute to it."

"Believe me, if I felt that I could survive in this messed up world and
stayed here longer, I wish I had the power to wipe all of you from the
slate in the most tortuous way possible, because that's what you to do
people like me. You make every waking second my personal living Hell and
don't give a crap about how you hurt people."

I have put your threat in bold for easy identification and future reference. In combination with your references to shootings and Columbine, I could easily see how a reasonable person would be put in fear by your remarks.

I am not myself a very reasonable person on these subjects and have no present fear of you no matter how many references to mass murder you make, so I will not be taking legal action at this time. However, unless you want to make new friends at Charter Communications and with your local law enforcement agency, please keep your angst-laden remarks a little further from the line.

If you feel you must be an hero (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/An_hero) (disclaimer: highly offensive link, no one should click on it), please realize that it is your decision and has nothing to do with the rest of us. You have been given links to resources that can help you with depression and suicidal ideation. If these do not avail you, you can go to any hospital emergency room.

Don't mistake hostility for indifference. I'm not a mean person, I just don't particularly care one way or another about you.

[drewkitty.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the ego-boo. Consensus was evenly divided whether this person is a troll or in severe mental crisis. I am tending towards the latter, so even though I find his acting out mildly annoying, I think it's healthy if it gets him the help he needs.

[drewkitty.livejournal.com]

>> There's a difference between saying that and asserting that people who are depressed just need to buck up and all their troubles will be gone.

Yes! Thank you. I have friends who have battled acute and clinical depression, and it is no fun at all. People don't "buck up" from depression any more than men without legs "stand up" from their wheelchairs. Thanks for linking him over to other communities that might be able to help him better.

[rye-bunny.livejournal.com]

ya, well, I think then need help but not for mental lj-trauma. In my experience people who self-harm DON'T use it as a manipulative tool to guilt others. "you're wrong I'm gonna cut myself to prove it" "if you don't buy me a pony for christmas I'll kill myself" blah blah. No, the warning signs of real self-harmers aren't that obvious.

So yes, either troll or they really are so disconnected with reality they think the majority of posters are dumb enough to shower them with sympathy.

[2notunderstand.livejournal.com]

Thank you for publishing the deleted post, because now anyone with half a brain can figure out that there was never a threat of anything. If any of you still can't figure that out, then there's really nothing I or anyone else could ever say to make a fool understand when the words are right there in front of you.

The quote that you and all the others misinterpret, "I wish I had the power to wipe all of you from the slate in the most tortuous way possible," is a simple wish to be able to stop or prevent people like you and your blind followers from being so damn mean and "indifferent" as you say to the rest of us that are trying to live their lives in peace and happiness.

Wishing out loud what all of us think is hardly a threat, but I'm sure all of you will continue thinking falsely because that's the only way you can rationalize your lack of compassion for those around you.

And if you were scared by any of those comments, I really cannot understand how you've made it this far in life because I never said anything even remotely like what you're accusing me of. If you read a book that was my life, you'd read about countless REAL threats to me, yet I never went and cried to anyone about them, so you've got some major growing up to do.

I stand by everything I've said and even if I never said them, I think them and will continue to and guess what? There's nothing that anyone could ever do to change that. It's the same old endless problem: Share unique thoughts or self-expression with the world and everyone hates you for it. This is why our world has so many issues. Treat others as you wish to be treated has gone out the window a long time ago.

And another thing; don't you think I would have masked my IP address or made sure I didn't leave too many comments if I actually thought I did anything wrong? Nope. I never did anything but signed up to a random crappy site I found in an attempt to get some help finding a job or customers and that's it, nothing less, nothing more.

This will be my last correspondence because, as Splatterhouse said, if I don't like the things that are being said, to just leave the conversation, and I that's the one thing I will give credit to them for saying and will now follow.

[gridlore.livejournal.com]

Oh, go cry more, dimwit. You invoke Columbine, then made it clear you wanted to remove everyone who annoyed you in "in the most tortuous way possible" - your words, not mine.

Only a complete moron would try to claim there wasn't a threat in there. Had you made that kind of comment to me to my face, your next thought would be "how did I land on the floor, and where are my teeth?"

You are a pathetic waste of good carbon. I'm not as nice as Drew is. Feel free to wander over and whine in my journal about how mean I am. The rabid wolverines I call friends love losers like you.

[rye-bunny.livejournal.com]

I second gridlore, you are an idiot with the emotional maturity - if not IQ - roughly on the same level as a retarded rabid badger with the butthurt of a billion super novas.

There was nothing "mean" about Drew's post. There IS a threat in your reply. End of story.

[voychael.livejournal.com]

"...there's really nothing I or anyone else could ever say to make a fool understand when the words are right there in front of you."

Yup, that's a point you've most definitely proven.

[ravan.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I missed it too. Looks like some drama queen decided that some basic generic advice about keeping a good attitude even while poor and on the bottom of the shit heap was some sort of deeply personal insult and deliberate triggering of her mental issues (subscription, more like). IMO, some people need to learn that it's really NOT all about them; REALLY.

[ravan.livejournal.com]

Look you whiny little twit, you are just making yourself look more and more like a dysfunctional drama queen with every pathetic cry for more attention you post.

People here aren't scared of you, they are laughing at your pathetic sense of entitlement, and your need to make every little thing all about you. Get off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and get over yourself.

If not, go call the waahmbulance.

Just FYI, I am physically disabled, currently unemployed, have dealt with real depression, and have dealt with real bullies all through school and then off and on in my work life. Even with the shit I've lived with, striving for a positive attitude where I can, especially about myself, has kept me just a little farther from the brink. Every fucking little tiny bit of light in the pit of darkness helps. It isn't a cure, it isn't a fix, but it helps.

So don't fucking knock it without even trying it, you twit, unless you get so much wonderful attention wallowing in your little drama queen pit of despair "Oh, woe is me, the interwebs are beeing meen to mee for suggesting that I might try to be a little more positive when my life is such a mess because blah, blah, waah waaah, waaah, look at meeee, pity mee, I'm gonna call down curses on you now!".

Sheesh.

[rue-gingertabby.livejournal.com]

You know all these people here are correct about this whining emo drama that "2notunderstand" is throwing.

Even my 3 year old neice knows better.

As for feeling like nobody understands you or how you want everyone to feel your pain...get over it.

My advice? See a therapist and get medicated.

[christophine.livejournal.com]

I think you need to get your keyboard checked out. I'm sure that what you're typing is really intelligent, thoughtful, and insightful. But all that's appearing here is "wank wank wank wank wank".

[morganhillchris.livejournal.com]

By your remarks - especially this last one, *please* get yourself to a mental health professional immediately for the following reasons:
1) you've taken a very generalized post & somehow internalized it & seemingly taken it as an attack upon yourself.
2) your remarks here have oscillated from anger aimed at others & then using that anger as a justification to make threats upon yourself as something to lash angrily out at others. When you feel that you have reasons to hurt yourself, then you need to go to the phone & call 911 *now*. If nothing else, to save your friends & family grief. You'd do that for someone else wouldn't you?
3) Drewkitty really was making a general remark to the world at large. It's pretty obvious if you read the original post.
4) I know Drewkitty fairly well; enough so, that I'm quite sure that he wasn't intending to hurt anyone by that post.