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May. 29th, 2007
network warfare has come to LJ
May. 29th, 2007 08:38 amA group styling themselves "Warriors for Innocence" has launched a major memetic warfare attack on LiveJournal. This has included attacks on their advertiser base, flogging the LJ Abuse team and using their replies to incriminate LJ, and now threats of direct legal action. In partial response, LJ has chosen to madly delete a large number of LJs which list certain criminal interests. See also http://liz-marcs.livejournal.com/266024.html
Do not visit the "Warriors for Innocence" site; view only through caches. They are using IP tracking software at a sophisticated level and claim to have high-level links with multiple law enforcement agencies. They are not shy about "outing" people to employers and law enforcement agencies based on secret criteria.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:mbDxkMwOuxUJ:www.warriorsforinnocence.org/+http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
"Any information, including IP's, comments, or emails may be published at any time. Any comments by pedophiles or those supporting them will be deleted on site. Any correspondence, including but not limited to comments, links, emails, phone calls, snail mail, etc may be used by Warriors For Innocence without your permission."
Allow me to let them speak for themselves. I do not consider reposting an "Open Letter" from a network warfare aware group to be a violation of copyright.
( Open Letter to Six Apart, the owners of LiveJournal (will contain triggers for those with abuse issues )
Note their complete lack of respect for free speech. Also note their narrow view of the complex and evil subject of child molestation. They believe, strongly, that ruthless suppression is the answer. This means less detection of predators, less help for victims, and no help for abusers . . . who presumably will not spend the rest of their lives in prison. My view of this is complex due to my criminological training; I will not debate it here.
The key point is that "Warriors" is unwilling to discuss the matter and feels that they have the absolutely right answer. Because they are explicitly into censorship and into network warfare, this makes them a very dangerous combination.
This is a classic "moral panic" from the sociological literature.
I may be leaving LJ completely. We'll see if Six Apart has any backbone.
Do not visit the "Warriors for Innocence" site; view only through caches. They are using IP tracking software at a sophisticated level and claim to have high-level links with multiple law enforcement agencies. They are not shy about "outing" people to employers and law enforcement agencies based on secret criteria.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:mbDxkMwOuxUJ:www.warriorsforinnocence.org/+http://www.warriorsforinnocence.org/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
"Any information, including IP's, comments, or emails may be published at any time. Any comments by pedophiles or those supporting them will be deleted on site. Any correspondence, including but not limited to comments, links, emails, phone calls, snail mail, etc may be used by Warriors For Innocence without your permission."
Allow me to let them speak for themselves. I do not consider reposting an "Open Letter" from a network warfare aware group to be a violation of copyright.
( Open Letter to Six Apart, the owners of LiveJournal (will contain triggers for those with abuse issues )
Note their complete lack of respect for free speech. Also note their narrow view of the complex and evil subject of child molestation. They believe, strongly, that ruthless suppression is the answer. This means less detection of predators, less help for victims, and no help for abusers . . . who presumably will not spend the rest of their lives in prison. My view of this is complex due to my criminological training; I will not debate it here.
The key point is that "Warriors" is unwilling to discuss the matter and feels that they have the absolutely right answer. Because they are explicitly into censorship and into network warfare, this makes them a very dangerous combination.
This is a classic "moral panic" from the sociological literature.
I may be leaving LJ completely. We'll see if Six Apart has any backbone.
Just In Case . . .
May. 29th, 2007 09:48 amhttp://www.greatestjournal.com/~drewkitty/
http://drewkitty.blogspot.com/
I will still be reading LJ and probably posting through Blogger. I may post less through LJ, however.
http://drewkitty.blogspot.com/
I will still be reading LJ and probably posting through Blogger. I may post less through LJ, however.